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		<title>The Good, The Bad, &amp; The Ugly in South Orange County Real Estate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Linsey Planeta</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the course of the last several months, I&#8217;ve become really interested in the way this housing market has impacted individual neighborhoods in South Orange County.  It&#8217;s become clear that the makeup of a neighborhood, the strength of the buyers from the last decade, the age of the community, the local amenities, it&#8217;s overall stage&#8230; <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-in-south-orange-county-real-estate/">[Continue Reading]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/house-and-dollar-sign.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-1074 alignleft" style="border: 1px solid black;" title="house and dollar sign" src="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/house-and-dollar-sign-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>Over the course of the last several months, I&#8217;ve become really interested in the way this housing market has impacted individual neighborhoods in South Orange County.  It&#8217;s become clear that the makeup of a neighborhood, the strength of the buyers from the last decade, the age of the community, the local amenities, it&#8217;s overall stage of development, has had some pretty significant impact on the resiliency of individual communities within the market.  But I was curious about some of the specifics that the numbers might reveal.</p>
<p>So I buckled myself up, and sat in front of the computer for a few hours to extrapolate some of the data from the Multiple Listing Service (MLS).  For a numbers geek like me, it&#8217;s pretty interesting stuff. And if you&#8217;re not a numbers geek&#8230;you might be surprised to find, it&#8217;s not entirely boring.  Work with me here&#8230;</p>
<h1>The Good</h1>
<p><a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Irvine_Sales_Analysis.png"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-986" title="Irvine Sales" src="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Irvine_Sales_Analysis.png" alt="" width="265" height="301" /></a>There is no doubt that certain communities have been more resilient over the course of this housing crisis than others.  In my <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/market-conditions/goodbye-formal-living-room-todays-orange-county-new-home/" target="_self">recent post</a> discussing the  product profile for new residential construction in Orange County, I discussed the uniqueness of the <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/neighborhoods/irvine/" target="_self">Irvine</a> market.  It has some of the lowest distress numbers in South County and a buyer demand that is consistently selling out the newest construction projects.  Year-to-date they have had less than 7% of all closings listed as bank owned (foreclosed) property and 22% short sales.  With less than a combined total of 29% for properties closed that were &#8216;distress&#8217; so far this year, Irvine is one of the strongest cities in the county.</p>
<p>The strength of the Irvine buyer demand may be attributed to the nationally renowned schools, the proximity to<a href="http://www.chapman.edu/" target="_blank"> Chapman University</a> and <a href="http://www.chapman.edu/" target="_blank">University of Irvine</a>, and the attractive commute to many Orange County employers.</p>
<p>My suspicion is also that the buyer profile may have been stronger.  I&#8217;d need to do further research, but given the large amount of new construction sold during the boom years, I&#8217;m a little surprised to still see a relatively low default rate, or distress market, as compared to other areas in South County that grew up in the boom.</p>
<h1>The Bad&#8230;Or At Least &#8216;Not So Good&#8217;</h1>
<p>Some of the other cities have seen significantly higher numbers of distress sales &#8211; bank owned properties and short sales closed.</p>
<p>Lake Forest has seen some fairly dismal numbers at nearly 60% of their closings either bank owned or short sales, with a slight improvement this year so far at 55.9%.  It&#8217;s also interesting to note that while some cities (<a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/neighborhoods/mission-viejo/" target="_self">Mission Viejo</a> and <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/neighborhoods/rancho-santa-margarita/" target="_self">Rancho Santa Margarita</a>) seem to be seeing a slight improvement in the percentage of equity sales (owners can sell for a price that covers mortgages and costs of sale) this year, <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/neighborhoods/laguna-niguel/" target="_self">Laguna Niguel</a> and<a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/neighborhoods/aliso-viejo/" target="_self"> Aliso Viejo</a> have seen decreases. Why?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen that some of the higher price points have been stronger for longer.  In other words, it&#8217;s only been more recently that we&#8217;ve seen short sales or bank foreclosures to any great extent in the higher price points.  These neighborhoods may now be feeling that pinch.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: left;">The Really Ugly</h1>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to examine the nature of the neighborhoods that have the highest number of distress inventories.  Upon examining a couple of the neighborhoods, it&#8217;s clear to me there are some very real reasons for the challenges some of these neighborhoods are facing.</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s important to know the following about the this chart &#8211; <em>Ladera Ranch numbers include their gated community of Covenant Hills, and San Clemente&#8217;s overall numbers include their newest addition of Talega in their calculations</em>. <em> For discussion, I&#8217;ve pulled out the specifics for both Covenant Hills and Talega.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to ignore, out of the cities I profiled,  the only one that didn&#8217;t have a lower percentage of bank owned homes  (foreclosures) was Lake Forest, and certainly Lake Forest has really  struggled with high numbers of distress throughout this market as well.</p>
<h1>Growing Up In The Boom</h1>
<p>I&#8217;m  particularly interested in the makeup of Ladera Ranch, Covenant Hills,  and Talega in this crisis, however.  These are neighborhoods that experienced  unprecedented demand, and in the early years, unprecedented  appreciation.  The product was new, architecture was unique, planning was exceptional, and it was highly  appealing to the buyer profile of the day.  But the one commonality these neighborhoods also face is the fact that they literally grew up in the boom.</p>
<p>And in the case of Covenant Hills (which I intend to explore further in a future post) you have a community, a luxury one at that, that was just in the beginning stages of it&#8217;s launch.  And while the construction of the planned community, high-end tract homes, has nearly completed at this point, the high number of available empty lots slated for luxury custom builds, remains vast.</p>
<p>And when you have entire communities that are built in a boom, the overall impact of that bust can be devastating.    For a small community like Covenant Hills &#8211; the high end of Ladera Ranch &#8211; to see nearly 64% of it&#8217;s year-to-date sales as distress, the impact cannot be overstated. With Talega suffering over 60% of it&#8217;s closed inventory year-to-date as  distress sales, there can be no question that this has dramatic impact  on value.</p>
<h1>Is There a &#8216;Good Deal&#8217; for a Buyer Here?</h1>
<p>Without a doubt, there are opportunities to get a &#8216;good deal&#8217; in these neighborhoods.  In some of the hardest hit neighborhoods, prices have fallen and distress inventory is high.  So if a &#8216;deal&#8217; is the goal, they are certainly here.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m curious about your perspective as a buyer &#8211; and I&#8217;m interested in your feedback.  If you find a property that is 50% off it&#8217;s peak in Covenant how do you respond to that?  Do you feel like it&#8217;s a better deal than the property that is only 30% off the peak in another neighborhood &#8211; some parts of Irvine for example.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting concept to consider.  Every buyer I talk to has one request in common &#8211; a good deal.  I think that&#8217;s an important thing to define in your search for a home.  Is the &#8216;deal&#8217; the predominant factor, really?  Is the long term value of the community a consideration?  Do the amenities impact your decision?</p>
<p>However, one may consider the long term prospective recovery in Covenant Hills as a real opportunity.</p>
<p>It really begs the question &#8211; from a buyer perspective, what do you consider a &#8216;good deal&#8217; in this environment?</p>
<h1>Short Sales and Volume</h1>
<p>Some things to note from the above numbers, in 2008 the foreclosed/bank owned homes were the more common distressed property available.  In 2009 the tide shifted and short sales played a much more significant role, one which grew further this year.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s interesting to note volume.  Nearly across the board, the number of sales increased from 2008 to 2009.  Jury is out for 2010 &#8211; but my personal opinion, given the expiration of the Housing Tax Credit, things may be fairly quiet for the 4th quarter of this year.</p>
<p>Jon Lanser with the Orange County Register recently did a <a href="http://lansner.ocregister.com/2010/09/03/home-sales-down-in-53-zips-yours/80101/#more-80101" target="_blank">post breaking down</a> the number of sales and the change in median price per zip code that might be interesting to check out.</p>
<address>Please note the following:  Year-to-date numbers are through August 23rd.  The data is pulled from SoCalMLS, however, the accuracy of all information is deemed reliable but not guaranteed.   <span style="font-family: Arial; color: #0000ff;"> </span></address>
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		<title>So You Want to Buy a Foreclosure</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Linsey Planeta</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear from buyers frequently that are interested in buying a foreclosed home / bank owned property. Sadly, in the under $750,000 market, the competition is brutal. Many times those with 20% down or more will trump those entry level buyers with FHA or VA financing. Even with a strong, high down payment offer, the&#8230; <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/so-you-want-to-buy-a-foreclosure/">[Continue Reading]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear from buyers frequently that are interested in buying a foreclosed home / bank owned property.  Sadly, in the under $750,000 market, the competition is brutal.  Many times those with 20% down or more will trump those entry level buyers with FHA or VA financing.  Even with a strong, high down payment offer, the process is very challenging, listing agents are inaccessible, and offers go into an email black hole.</p>
<p>If you are frustrated, you are not alone. Buyers and agents alike are very discouraged. This video animation done by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/sandiegocastles" target="_blank">SanDiegoCastles</a>, is a tremendous illustration of the consumer frustration that abounds.  If you ever need help in San Diego, <a href="http://sandiegohomeblog.com/" target="_blank">Kris Berg</a> is your gal.  Love her!</p>
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		<title>Foreclosures Making it Tough for the Traditional Seller</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Linsey Planeta</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even in a tough market for sellers, there are still those that must sell due to personal circumstances.  Whether it&#8217;s a divorce, job relocation, or financial strain &#8211; there are still homeowners with equity, that find themselves in the position of having to sell and in this market, that can pose some challenges. I come&#8230; <a href="http://ocrealestatevoice.com/foreclosures-making-it-tough-for-the-traditional-seller/">[Continue Reading]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">Even in a tough market for sellers, there are still those that must sell due to personal circumstances.  Whether it&#8217;s a divorce, job relocation, or financial strain &#8211; there are still homeowners with equity, that find themselves in the position of having to sell and in this market, that can pose some challenges.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I come across articles all day on the Internet and share with you those that I find most interesting or those that in which I feel compelled to share my 2 cents.  This article on <a title="CNN Money" href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/02/real_estate/REOs_tough_on_sellers/index.htm?postversion=2008120203" target="_blank">foreclosures and pricing</a> from early December on CNN Money, was sent to me by a past client that is selling a home out of the area.  She is also a buyer in Orange County and sees the significant impact that foreclosure pricing has on her view of traditional, or equity, sellers.</p>
<p>It creates an interesting dynamic for her &#8211; she is both a buyer and a seller in this market.  That dual role allows her a tremendous clarity in the ability to position her listing.  She knows that she must price it to compete with the distress <a href="http://www.ocrealestatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/istock_000005363912xsmall.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-181 alignleft" title="Real Estate for Sale" src="http://www.ocrealestatevoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/istock_000005363912xsmall-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a>inventory in her marketplace.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">As a buyer, she is also seeing that the although distressed inventory in our marketplace is not always in great condition, the best <em>deals</em> are often in that sector of the market.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">As stated by CNN Money, &#8220;In California, the median price for an REO listing was $259,000 during the week of November 10, 23% lower than the non-REOs on the market according to <a href="http://www.trulia.com/" target="new">Trulia.com</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">With REO&#8217;s in the state priced 23% lower than the traditional seller, it definitely puts the price pressure on equity sellers.  <em>You must price to compete. </em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That being said, I have noticed (and discussed here) that traditional sellers do seem to get a higher price per square foot ultimately.  The possible reasons?  Full disclosure from the seller about past problems, often superior condition, less competition with other buyers because many investors target foreclosures, and the ability to have a timely response to an offer as opposed to the lengthy one in short sale circumstances.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Bottom line &#8211; look at your competition.  Are there distressed properties in your sector of the market?  You may have a <em>bit</em> of an edge as an equity seller, but buyers are looking for a good deal.    If you want to sell, you must be perceived as a good deal with pricing that is competitive.</p>
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